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Author Topic: newbie rider 2 years ago so your chance to learn from my mistakes...  (Read 297 times)
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« on: December 28, 2011, 06:01:30 AM »

After the landrover was written off and the insurance man paid me some money but never enough  I got a bike instead of another Landrover . 1st mistake !
 Having looked round I bought a bike for what it looked like not what  was sensible and dint ask enough questions.
 So  took some additional training and  headed off up tp the Snake on a bike that weighs in at  548 lb  a 1986 Honda VF1000 F2F BOL D'OR
Mistake number 2   think about the roads you are going to learn on and think abpout what you might come accross and really get your head round anticipation .
   mistake 3    too fast into the bends resulted in going the other side of the double white lines where fortunately there was no traffic coming the other way .
 mistake 4 dont power up out of the neds too quick as the back try gets to grip with the road it wants to stand the bike up and you run wide !
mistake 5 learn contra steering dont try to pull the bike about with the handlebars  a gentle push on the bar to the inside of the bend will hafe more instant and cntrolable effect.
mistake 6 read " twist of the wrist" before you get adventurous  not after !
Coming out of the bends too much power is a bad thing ,  not leaning the b ike over enough  is a bad thing , not shifting your weight  is a bad thing , not gripping your bike with your knees is a bad thing.
mistake 7  speed. dont forget 20 speed limits are getting more common ,
mistake 8 check your tyre presures two or three times a week  at least  and if you tre not sure about the tension on your chain  take it to a mate who does know !
 Dont be scared of looking a pratt its better than looking pale white and stiff in a box !
remember taking a pillion does a lot to a bike.  her (most commonly found pillion) weight  will affect your brakes and stopping distance . she will increase the wight on the back tyre whioch I found improved cornering.  if sh e holds onto you instead of th ebikes grab handles  as you slow for bends her weight  with transfer into you and tour arms and thus the  handlebars  badly affecting your ability to steer  and if she  isnt in balance   it leads to nasty effects.
   Remember from a standstill setting off to an immediate  left hand turn  is a tight move and her balance will affect the way the bike handles  and it can fall over at low speeds so be careful  take thwe turn as wide as you can   try to get her on the back as often as possible and  get her to learn balance it makes life much easier . your pillion needs to use her legs to grip the bike too ! I found thaT EXPERIENCED PILLION RIDERS MAKE A RIDE A LOT EASIER AND MUCH NICER
 wet raods are  not as nasty as some people would have you believe  but they are a hazzard,  Think who can see you ,  think what is likely to make you stop or worse swerve  
 keep your speed down  . keep your distance from the gys in front  and be aware of who is around you behind and on both sides.
Things tend to go wrong very fast ,
mistake  8 was it?
 SNOW/ICE If you dont have to go out on the bike dont.   i was at alking pace with my honda in with no warning it hit the floor , so fast I didnt have time to even think about putting my foot down   one moment it was wheeling nice and steadily over thin snow within a tyre track  and the next thing there was a hot exhaust butning my right leg that was pinned to the gorund inder 1/4 ton of bike an dsurrounded by a lot of expensive plastic
mistake 9  find the cut off swith and remember to use it as fast as possible !
 MISTAKE 10   LOW SUNLIGHT .....You cAN SEE THEM BUT WHEN THE SUN IS BEHIND YOU THEY CANT SEE YOU AT ALL you are in a grey shaddow  and unless you have your light on you are invisible ! even big lorries are just a shaddow you cant see.  
Mitake 11  dont take someone on the back who is a liability  , if they cant balance  they will have you both off, if they are liekly to do daft things like wave at their mates  kick em off an dlet em walk !  dont take on anyone who you think is two heave   trying to stop a bike going down is bad enough  tryinjg to stop a bike going down when your pillion is leaning the way the bike is falling is not fun!

misTAKE 12  WHEN SOMEONE RUNS INTO YOUR BIKE AND YOU ARE NOT ON IT BUT STOOD CLOSE TO IT   do not try and grab it before it hits the deck !
 a YEAR ON PAIN KILLERS  19 WEEKS PHYSIO AND THREE OPERATIONS IS NOT WORTH IT . tH E BIKE IS INSURED   GET THEIR DETAILS  GET WITNESS STATEMENTS  and get the police if you have any doubts about the driver who hit you .

mistake 13   if asomeone offers to buy you a bike  make damned sure they put it in writing they have given it to you as a gift . !
mistake 14  overtaking is much different on a bike than in a car . look for a gap in the traffic  use your mirrors and then go   but remember when you start to  overtake to look for all the possible places you can get back to your side of th eroad, look for all the places someone  might  turn out into your path with out looking and always always always do your life saver checks they ar ecalled that for a reason .

mistake 15 ride like the other bikers comming the other way are high on drugs ar enot wearing glasses and dont give a damn if their reckless riding  kills you both !
Th enumber of times I hav eseen bikes on thwe wrong sid eof the road   on blind corners, having hert stopping moments as they  barely miss something coming the other way ..
 lessons I learned    on narrow road drop back extra distance from the vehicle(s)infront .
 I have had two trucks collide infront of me and shower me in debris, has a wheel barrow  bowling up the road toweards me off the flat bed truck
 had a deer run infront of me, a bat , a fox , an owl  and umpteen sheep
 so narrow roads and night rides each have their own hazards    racing down country lanes is great for TT riders ,,, derbyshire roads need to be treated with respect .
 INSTRUCTORS.!  
WELL oN EOF MINE LEFT ME IN TOWN AND CLEARED OFF   leaving me on a bike that wasnt mine , with almost no fuel and no longer in radio contact with my instructor so I got off pARKED THE BIKE UP AND GOT A BUS HOME THEN   RANG HIM TO TELL HIM WHERE TO PICK UP TH EBIKE AND WHERE TO SEND THE REFUND FOR THE REST OF MY LESSONS i WOULD NOT BE TAKING WITH HIM !

NEXT MISTAKE
 Flip up helmets ,  not a lot of fun if you are doing 120 down the motorway . yes I know  wont do it again officer,,, and the flip up  goes up in the wind leaving you utterly  blindfold till you get it down again .

Garage forecourts  ar e often slippery but more so in winter   so be careful
Roundabouts,  th e sun doesnt get to thwe shaded side eARLY IN TH EMORNING SO YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF GOING FROM A CLEAR ROAD TO AN ICY PATCH RIGHT at th epoint where you want to power up again .....  leave it a bit longer and expect the road to be icy in the shadows .

 iF  YOU FEEL YOU ARE GOIN GTTO FAST INTO A CORNER FOR GOD SAKE DONT  PULL THE CLUTCH IN OR RAPIDLY THROTLE BACK
 the bike will want to stand up and  drift even wider accross the road .
 make sure you get you rspeed right going into the bend before you get ther   if it does turn out you are going too fast  get your bum out of the seat   put some faith in your bike and counter steer more. you will be amazed at how low your bike will go and then how much faster it does the turn  the rat eof turn increases exponentially to the angle of bank ...I found that out the hard way  with my daughter on the back  but one the bike was over all drama stopped from the bikes point of view  it just went round th ebend like it was on wheels, I on th eother hand   almost had a bowel movement and my heart was in my throat for a moment when the pegs scraped the floor ........and believe me that is th eonly time ever I have done a knee down bend .

So I hope someone will learn from th emistakes I have made  and hopefully this will start yet more debate with those who disagree with what I have put    bu tif it promotes some additional learning  then its all been worth while . Its almost 2012 I hope we are all still here when its almost 2013 , ride safe guys    learn sAFELY  AND HAVE FUN



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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 09:53:03 AM »

Excellent read smile loved the humours outlook on it - good advice though, almost all learnt the hard way.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 10:22:02 AM »

Flip up helmets, not a lot of fun if you are doing 120 down the motorway. yes I know wont do it again officer,,, and the flip up  goes up in the wind leaving you utterly  blindfold till you get it down again.

Men: Shave before you close a flip up helmet!  yikes yikes yikes evil
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 11:13:33 AM »

Great read and good advice, just unfortunate you had to learn the hard way.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 04:29:35 PM »

iF  YOU FEEL YOU ARE GOIN GTTO FAST INTO A CORNER FOR GOD SAKE DONT  PULL THE CLUTCH IN OR RAPIDLY THROTLE BACK

Am not sure I would agree with that, though maybe it's different on a pocket rocket which I've never ridden...coming off the throttle is *always* the first thing you should do, it was taught when I was training to be the first "brake".
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 04:44:34 PM »

please for god sake dont do that mid corner.!!!

rolling off and or braking mid corner will TRY to stand the bike up (i say try because as you get more experienced you can counter that) if you've gone too hot into a corner, keep a steady throttle and counter steer more, whilst looking where you want to go.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 05:03:27 PM »

Yeh I see why it'd be bad at speed, thinking about it...guess I've never had that much gas on in a corner (yet)
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 05:35:03 PM »

Jamjam.  Use your gears.
You see a bend up ahead, drop a gear.  If you cant see where its going, or its sharpening, drop at least one more.
throttle off before you go in.  No need to brake, let the engine do it for you.  Braking means you are going too fast for the road.
Hold the throttle steadily and then slowly thriottle out of the bend.
Gentle throttling will pull you in.
Being in the wrong gear or not using the throttle makes the bike run out (wide).
Be smooth.  It's not about speed but speed will come with it.
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