Mr Mandy
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« on: March 16, 2008, 03:39:55 PM » |
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This question has popped up more times than the toaster at SOUP's on a meet morning and i'm getting rather tired of repeating myself, as I am sure that most of the "old hands" are. It seems that a lot of you youngsters are set on buying outright sports bikes as a first large capacity bike. This is not a good idea at all, unless you have suicidal tendancies  So, I thought I would list suitable and unsuitable bikes and ask the more experienced members to list their first big bikes and their opinions, so that we can keep one thread for reference without a new one popping up every week. Suitable Kawasaki ER5/ER6/ZX6 Honda CBR400/CBR600F/Transalp/Deauville Suzuki GS500/GSX400 Yamaha Thundercat/Fazer600/FZR400/FZR600 UnsuitableKawasaki ZX9/ZX10/ZZR1100/ZZR1400 Honda CBR600RR/CBR1000 Fireblade Suzuki GSXR600/SGXR1000 Yamaha R6/R1/Fazer1000 Aprilia Mille/RSV Ducati 848/998/999/1098 If anyone wants to add to this list, feel free as i'm not au-fait with non-sports bikes  PS: Mods, can we make this sticky pls? |
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 03:42:48 PM » |
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I would Add SV 650 in to suitables :-)
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 03:43:48 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2008, 03:44:03 PM » |
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zaksv650s
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2008, 03:47:07 PM » |
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hayabusa1300,zzr1400,blackbird,tlseries,fz1,all unsuitable
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2008, 03:51:43 PM » |
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BMW F800s suitable (85bhp - 185kg - >150mph top speed - too blooming expensive to drop) Yes I know you said more experienced riders  |
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2008, 03:53:02 PM » |
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650 v-strom suitable
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2008, 04:34:11 PM » |
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I thought I would list suitable and unsuitable bikes and ask the more experienced members to list their first big bikes and their opinions, so that we can keep one thread for reference without a new one popping up every week.  excellent idea  |
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2008, 04:39:22 PM » |
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1st bigger bike was a kawasaki gpx 250r (ninja 250) and i would think it an excellent 1st bike for the 33bhp'ers but my first big bike is a Suzuki Bandit 600 and i would think thats one of the best first big bikes put there.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2008, 09:05:40 PM » |
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Suzuki GSF 650 suitable
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2008, 09:33:04 PM » |
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MTT Y2K - Unsuitable.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2008, 09:37:13 PM » |
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MTT Y2K - Unsuitable.
Lol, Was that you I spotted on my scenic route to work today? I was unsure as it looks a bit different to the photobucket version. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2008, 09:40:33 PM » |
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W650 kawa - suitable
Raptor 650 V or N cagiva- suitable
Raptor 1000 V ,N or X cagiva- not suitable
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2008, 09:41:42 PM » |
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First big bike for me (well first over 250cc) Kawasaki VN 800 Classic, very suitable (providing you're into comfort and cruisers)  |
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2008, 09:44:30 PM » |
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Was that you I spotted on my scenic route to work today? I was unsure as it looks a bit different to the photobucket version.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2008, 10:02:18 PM » |
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I have just passed my test, so this post is interesting to me. I'm glad someone added a Bandit 600 as that's what I'm thinking of... Can anyone tell me if a 300 BHP Turbo Hayabusa is appropriate for a new rider? |
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2008, 10:10:28 AM » |
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Additions to Suitable: Kwak GPZ500S. Yam FZ6 Unsuitable (surely): Kwak ZX6 .. listed in the suitable section .. no way .. if so then earlier R6 and CBR6 models are suitable...! I see no Triumphs listed ... are they unrideable?  |
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2008, 11:10:13 AM » |
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Can anyone tell me if a 300 BHP Turbo Hayabusa is appropriate for a new rider? Yeah no probs (0-60 in oh my godddddddddd)  I see no Triumphs listed ... are they unrideable? Go on then somebody say it   On a serious note though the street triple - great first bike (if you can get hold of one) |
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2008, 11:38:25 AM » |
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I would add a CBR600RR :0) to the suitable, as long as you are sane and especially as the ZX-6 is there with an extra 37cc.
It is very dependant on how you ride it.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2008, 11:48:00 AM » |
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But Mr Mandy has already added the CBR600RR! It's in his unsuitable list.!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2008, 05:09:37 PM » |
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Hornet 600 - suitable
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The 2006 Hornet 600 has the same power to weight ratio as a Bugatti Veyron.
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2008, 09:19:33 PM » |
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I think this may be a futile exercise in the end. Even where there is a high degree of agreement - that out and out sports bikes of 600cc and upwards are unsuitable - the view of the board is still not unanimous, and there are respected members who have happily and successfully ridden off post-test on hypersports machines and not only lived to tell the tale, but thrived.
And having agreed to disagree about the sportsbikes, pretty much every other bike over 125cc is going to suit *somebody*. Even BMW's HP2 Enduro with a seat height of 92cm will be appreciated by a DAS-enabled giraffe.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2008, 09:22:40 PM » |
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zzr600 suitable
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2008, 09:29:25 PM » |
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You fashion Nazis!
How could the lovely Diversion 600 be left off the list??
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2008, 09:31:09 PM » |
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the divi 600 there ya go ray
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2008, 12:00:52 AM » |
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Even BMW's HP2 Enduro with a seat height of 92cm will be appreciated by a DAS-enabled giraffe.
LOL, That is a funny image! |
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2008, 10:37:12 AM » |
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I'm not so sure the ZX-6 should be in the suitable list. I've been riding for quite a few years now and have had my ZX-6R for 6 months. I find it a little frisky from time to time (every time I'm out on it) and it would be dangerous in totally inexperienced hands. I know it's not true for everyone though - Morpheus' first bike is a CBR600RR and he seems to be doing alright so far (apart from dropping it)  My first big bike was an ER-6n and I totally agree that this is an excellent post DAS bike. |
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2008, 04:28:31 PM » |
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Well my Bandit went in for its first service today, and although I think it is an amazing bike, I thought I would share my thoughts about the loan bike I was given today whilst mine was being serviced......  The Suzuki GSX650F. Were do I start, well 1st off it is very comfertable with a great riding position, then there is the great speedo lay out with its GSXR styling and gear position indicator  To me it felt much lighter than the bandit although the specs don't say that  It was very agile and I was whipping in and out of the traffic on my way to work. It also seems to be geared differently as well, as lower down the range in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd it is much quicker than the bandit, but so easy to manage and manouvere!!! I would reccomend this bike to anyone as a first bike was a blast today ragging the hell out of it and I felt safe and in control at all times.   All in all a very good all round bike and very confidence inspiring. Ride safe, Neil. |
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2008, 12:39:19 PM » |
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Got my test in a week and have the money waiting to buy my first big bike, and get rid of my shadow (I will miss her tho). I narrowed it down to 2 that I really like the look of. Honda VFR800 and Triumph sprint ST. What do you guys think of these as first big bikes ?
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2008, 08:46:54 PM » |
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too big for first bikes you'll certainly drop them as they are heavy old things that take some experience to muscle around you could try them though both are silly speed rockets mind you and are for people with a few years riding under their belts i think the honda would have been the lesser of the two evils though.
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